The Dumb Also Rises

      As my title may suggest, today’s riveting addition to shostahemingway will discuss The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway, one of this blog’s two namesakes*. In today’s Zoom discussion of the ambiguous (emotionally intimate? romantic? sexually unfulfilled? toxic?) relationship between Jake Barnes and Lady Brett Ashley, we had a pretty impassioned chat debate centered around the following question:


Is Jake the dumb one in this relationship? In other words, is he stupid to keep Brett around, and not recognize that he has no future with her and that staying in this limbo between friendship and romance will only continue to hurt him? 


And my answer is that, yes, he is. From the outside, Brett may seem like she’s leading Jake on, but in their conversations, she is perfectly forthcoming about the nature of her relationships with men. In the nightclub scene where Robert Cohn starts to check her out, Jake chats casually with her about how she’s “made another one” and how she “likes to add them up” — he’s aware of her habits. Brett’s also transparent about the fact that she will not pursue a “real” relationship with Jake because she knows she’d only cheat on him. We’re not too far into the novel, and already Jake and Brett have had several conversations that go something like this:


J: “I love you!”

B: “I love you too, my darling!”

J: “Let’s be together!”

B: “It wouldn’t work and we’d just get hurt! Especially you, darling!”

J (implied): “~I can hear you! But I won’t!~


And then, they’re back where they started. 


As readers, we get the sense that they’ve had many, many more of these conversations in the past. At a certain point, this has to get old; something has to happen. Of course, we also know that bouncing from man to man, never committing, are integral parts of Brett’s personality, and Jake knows this, at least on an intellectual level. And so, at this point, I think he’s stupid not to see the signs. He gets so heartbroken, so down-in-the-dumps about not being able to be with her, but he’s been in this game for long enough that he should know that it’s not going to happen. Yes, Brett doesn’t treat him so well—I would say she’s certainly smart enough to know the depth of his feelings for her, and perhaps she does genuinely care for him deep down, and other parts of her nature simply won’t allow her to commit to him—but at the end of the day, it’s Jake’s fault that he keeps letting her in. He never tells Brett that she’s hurting him. He never tells her not to barge into his place at four in the morning. And so, Jake’s largely responsible for the emotional damage he’s sustaining from his toxic relationship with her. 


I know some people in today’s discussion disagreed with me, so here’s your chance to rebuke me in the comments. Let me know what you think!

-NC


*The other namesake, for those who may have wondered, is Dmitri Shostakovich, twentieth-century Russian composer. I titled this blog after going through a bunch of twentieth-century composers and writers and smushing their names together in search of the most catchy combination. Thus, Shostakovich + Hemingway = shostahemingway


Comments

  1. Yeah, considering how oblivious/persistent Jake is and how determined Brett is to keep hanging out with him anyway, I predict that they're going to have that exact conversation until the end of the book. Or they're both gonna die of alcohol poisoning or smth idk

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  2. As a third person point of view, it is easy for you to say he should leave this relationship because you are not the one in it. Human beings are more complicated than this and Jake loves Brett. I don’t think you can label Jake as dumb as leaving a relationship that is harmful to him because there is so much more at play in a domestic relationship. He is in love with this woman but the feeling is evidently not reciprocated and she leads him on, maintaining his illusions. She is toxic by pursuing this romantic relationship with Jake and affirming her love for him. Not to say that this is an abusive relationship but one reason victims do not leave abusive relationships is because they believe that although they are hurt by their partner, they believe they still care. He may not be experiencing abuse but Jake is not going to leave because he is under the impression that their love is mutual which outweighs any pain he deals with. (Not even taking into account the disproportionate power dynamic between them where Brett is in control.) She is maintaining an illusion of romantic relationship I think you cannot blame Jake for his situation. He is willing to set aside any pain he goes through because of the relationship in which he believes there is mutual love. Regardless of whether there is love or not, (Brett’s consistent disregard for his feelings has led me to believe there is not,) Jake is by no means dumb for not leaving.

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  3. I think Jake could be better about establishing boundaries with Brett, but she also never considers for a second what boundaries he might have or if she's treating him badly. I'm glad that Brett knows her nature, but she's never focused on anything besides her needs, which is not a way to have any respectful friendship or relationship. Neither of their wishes should take complete priority, and right now Brett just uses everyone around her instead of having a good sense of boundaries and reciprocity. If Jake was treating her like this, I'd say the same thing.

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  4. I agree that Jake is at fault. He can't help his feelings towards Brett, but he knows who she is and on some level must know that she cannot change for him. So, yes, he's a bit of a dummy. However, I still think that Brett is at fault as well. Brett obviously has no obligations towards Jake, but she had to have known that going to San Sebastian with Cohn would at the very least make Jake very uncomfortable since Cohn is Jake's "friend" and sees him a lot. I do not think that she was hiding the trip from him to spare his feelings because she told him after the fact anyway. It seems to me that she didn't tell Jake about the trip before it happened because she knew he would be upset by it, and she didn't want anything to stop her from going with Cohn.

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  5. First off -- big fan of the title of this blog post. I most definitely agree that it is completely Jake's doing of why he is still head over heels for Brett. However, I still think that Brett could make it easier on Jake by not showing as much affection towards him. She knows that Jake has strong feelings for her, yet she still kisses him. I'm not saying she hasn't made her point clear, I'm just saying she could back off of Jake so he could clear his head.

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  6. I like your "subtle" reference to Frozen. I can't believe no one else noticed in the comments. As many people have mentioned, I think they're both at fault. However, Jake is the one getting hurt in this relationship, and since Brett obviously doesn't care, the responsibility to step out of the relationship falls on Jake. Although ideally they should both be on the same page, it doesn't seem like Brett cares enough about Jake's feelings to stop their relationship. I don't think Jake is dumb. I think he just thinks that the only chance he'll ever have with a woman is with Brett, so he doesn't want to break off their formed relationship since Brett already knows about his situation. People don't always do what's "good" for them, and it seems like for Jake, it's more important to at least try to have a relationship than to have a healthy one. He knows he can't be with Brett, but he still wants a relationship with a woman. Brett is his only option despite not really being an option.

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  7. It seems as though their relationship will not progress unless Jake finds some sort of way to let go. Otherwise he won't be able to have a relationship with anyone, let alone Brett. He needs a whole life reevaluation if is going to grow in any sort of way.

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  8. I love the title of this blog post, as it led me to want to read it. It would be best for Jake to leave the relationship, but human relationships are a lot more complicated than they seem. It is often very difficult for people to leave toxic or emotionally abusive relationships. Jake is willing to be in pain in order to keep her in his life. So he is not necessarily dumb for this, he's just probably struggling with what would be more painful-- leaving or staying.

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